(urth) Long Sun Laughs

[John Watkins]

It's from after Long Sun.

Severian is pretty clearly more than human in a demi-god sense while linked
up with the New Sun in Urth.  That does not make him an incarnation of the
Increate.

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 3:22 PM, David Stockhoff <dstockhoff at verizon.net>wrote:

> Was that from before or after TUotNS?
> Because certain passages during a healing scene make it pretty clear that
> Severian (or a part of Severian's consciousness) observes himself as
> something huge squeezing itself through tiny human senses. That's a god
> talking.
>
> It may leave room for temporary goddish intervention, but Severian himself
> observes this as though it is he who is the god, not as though someone else
> is the god.
>
> Perhaps Wolfe rethought it.
>
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> Why is the Jordan interview not the last word on this?  The emphasis is my
> own.
>
> "*JJ:* The holy slaves [Heirodules], Famulimus or one of them tells
> Severian
> that he is the center of his race, the savior of his race. That is such
> Christlike language you can see why interpreters would say, Well Severian
> is
> a Christ figure. But is there a Christ figure in the book, or is he simply
> for this universe?
>
> *GW:* In so far as there is a Christ figure it is Severian. That doesn't
> mean he has to be identified with Christ. He is in a position similar to
> that of Christ. *But really it is a different position because Christ
> really
> is both God and man. Severian is not*. Severian is a Christian rather than
> a
> Christ. But he has been taken as the representative of humanity by whom
> humanity is to be judged. This I think is what has happened perhaps with
> the
> actual human Jesus. He is or was as fully human as you or I and we are
> saved
> by Him. By the fact that he passed. That the corruption did not destroy
> Him.
> I think that St. Paul is absolutely correct when he says that Jesus was
> tempted in all the ways that we are tempted. I think that Jesus was tempted
> to commit murder or any other sin that you want to name just as the rest of
> us are. And the difference is that He did not sin."
>
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