(urth) PF as YA

brunians at brunians.org brunians at brunians.org
Thu Apr 16 11:43:49 PDT 2009


I sort of liked him. I think he was probably a valuable priest in his
inner-city parish there.



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> No, I didn't find Adult Chris to be sympathetic and I'm not sure I was
> supposed to.  I don't really have a developed argument for that, though.
>
> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Jonathan Goodwin
> <joncgoodwin at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I think by the time that he's writing his narrative, in America, as a
>> traditionalist priest, he is meant to be a wholly sympathetic
>> character by Wolfe. I do not find him so, for any number of reasons,
>> but my feeling is that Wolfe does intend him to be. I solicit other
>> reactions to this, from those of you who read the book and still care.
>>
>> Also, about the wiki, while I have you on the horn here: The "Seven
>> American Nights" entry ends with the following line:
>>
>> "It shows us that Americans could behave as horribly as the
>> third-world people they look down on, were the roles reversed. "
>>
>> I know it's a wiki, etc.; but is that what whoever wrote it really meant
>> to
>> say?
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 4:19 AM, Mo Holkar / UKG <lists at ukg.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>> > At 23:47 15/04/2009, Jonathan Goodwin wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I know that "didactic" has a pejorative connotation in many
>> >> circumstances (which might be derived from New Critical orthodoxy, at
>> >> least in part); but I meant it only descriptively.
>> >
>> >
>> > It seems to me likely that Wolfe means all of his work to have a
>> didactic
>> > element (in that descriptive sense). Otherwise, what would be the
>> moral
>> > purpose of writing it?
>> >
>> > And to go back to your slightly earlier question -- while Chris surely
>> isn't
>> > held up as a moral exemplar, he does seem to me to be portrayed
>> > sympathetically, and his exploits laid out in such a way that
>> instruction
>> > might be drawn from them. So this might be a more sophisticated take
>> on
>> the
>> > identify-with protagonist of simplistically didactic YA. I'm not an
>> expert,
>> > but I'm sure there must be a tradition of other such in the YA canon.
>> >
>> > Mo
>> >
>> >
>> > # ~ # ~ #
>> >
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