(urth) Hut/Ultan's Library/Catherine

John Watkins john.watkins04 at gmail.com
Wed Apr 8 07:49:29 PDT 2009


James, I really admire the insights you bring to this topic.
I am curious, though--if Severian is a clone of one of Typhon's children,
what is Ouen's function?  Just a red herring?

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 10:35 AM, James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com> wrote:

> James Wynn wrote:
>>
>>> "...and quite suddenly I felt that he and I were dead..."
>>>>>
>>>>
>   Jeff Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>>> but I think it just the general creepiness that give him thoughts
>>>> of being dead and buried; indeed the 3rd paragraph before the
>>>> end of the chapter includes "To the upper levels of that place
>>>> I returned several times, but I never again entered that tomblike
>>>> cellar, or ever wished to."
>>>>
>>>
>  James Wynn wrote:
>>> Although I realize some people have physical reactions to this sort of
>>> thing, a minor extension of Don Dogget's clone theory would provide a
>>> narrative (rather than a purely metaphoric --and to my mind desperate)
>>> explanation for Severian's morbid sensation.
>>>
>>
>   Jeff Wilson wrote:
>> Can you refresh my memory on that, please?
>>
>
> It connects Severian directly to the magic beans in the Spring Wind story,
> and identifies him as a clone one of those "children" of Typhon (Spring
> Wind).  He never claimed that Ultan was a clone to my knowledge, hence the
> "minor extension". But once you bring clones into a story, it is a given
> that there is never just one.
>
> The theory is pretty detailed and I don't think I can do it justice, so
> maybe Don will chime in about it. It is the only theory that I know about
> that attempts to connect that story to the New Sun narrative. I tried to get
> him to write it up formally so I could post it at the Map of the Whorl site,
> but he just never had the time or felt the drive to do that. It came out
> during the time when the list had crashed so I don't think you'll find it in
> the archives.
>
> J.
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