(urth) The Will Of God

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Individual entities may or may not know the will of God. This does not
stop them from doing the will of God. Nothing happens save by the will of
God.

God, will, occurred, did not occur: these are terms.

'God' means the (presumed) omniscient, omnipotent ruler of the world. You
may or may not believe that such a thing exists. This is immaterial: that
is the definition of the term.

Will is a deliberate act.

I am going to assume that everyone here knows what it means to say that
something did occurred or that something may have occurred but did not in
fact occur.

Assuming that there is an omniscient, omnipotent ruler of the world,
everything that occurs is in accordance with said ruler's will: either He
wills it to occur, or he chooses not to prevent it.

So once something has occurred, you can look back and say "that was the
Will of God". Before it occurs, you don't know.



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Q Are there more live people or dead people?
A There are more live people. Dead people are not.



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> Exactly.
>
> I meant also to ask, Do Abaia and his lords perceive the will of the
> Increate? Presumably they do not, any more than the Hierogrammates do. But
> they seem to try to resist it rather than carry it out, at least until
> Severian comes along. Because their motivations are unclear beyond the
> desire to enslave humanity, it's hard to figure out whether they guess
> right about the Increate or not. If they ARE on the wrong side, is it
> because they guessed right or guessed wrong?
>
> As an idle aside: It occurs to me that a Protestant view of the Hieros
> (all of them) would be to mistrust them completely. They stand between us
> and the Increate, pretending or seeming to represent him or what he wants.
> And they are all corrupt.(The extent to which they actually claim this
> status can be argued.)
>
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> From: "John Watkins" <john.watkins04 at gmail.com>
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> I think it is clear that the Hierogrammates do not know the will of
> God.  What is less clear to me is:
>
> 1) Are the pieties of the Hierodules, Hierarchs, and Hierogrammates
> sincere?  I take is that there is truth mixed with falsehood, but I
> can't tell where one ends and the other begins.
>
> 2) Do the Hierogrammates ultimately bring about the will of God?  I
> want to say that they do. I do not know how, in the text, this occurs,
> unless it really is through time-travelling protagonists from later
> series.
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