(urth) Abaia and the undines

David Stockhoff dstockhoff at verizon.net
Fri Dec 12 07:23:30 PST 2008


And that passage occurs after Severian returns from Yesod, so that makes even better sense than if he is MORE scarred.

Who is the prophetess with the Autarch Valeria when Severian steps forth into the audience room? I thought it was Herena, but Herena is from the time of Typhon.

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Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:44:06 -0500
From: "John Watkins" <john.watkins04 at gmail.com>
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On 12/11/08, Son of Witz <sonofwitz at butcherbaker.org> wrote:

> >
>   
>>> > > >For the face-changing issue, they are talking about how the faces of
>>>       
>> > >rulers are idealized and ennobled in portraits and sculptures. He
>> > >didn't look that noble in real life, even on the day he came to claim
>> > >Valeria. But now he does -- after his character-transformative
>> > >experiences of becoming the New Sun and the Conciliator. Valeria
>> > >laughs and cries because now it is too late for her.
>>     
> >
> > Though his portrait as Autarch is horribly scarred, at least on the coin.
> > """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
> > Said you gave him a chrisos like none he'd seen."
> > "He may return it, if he wishes. Do you want to see one of our coins?"
> > ...
> >  I passed a chrisos across the table.
> > He examined it, bit it, and gave it back to me. "Gold all right. Looks a trifle like you, 'cept he seems to have got himself cut up. Don't suppose you noticed."
> >
> > The Chrisos Severian has is from his reign, one Idas brought with when he boarded along with Sev. unless I'm mistaken.
> >
>   

Yes.  Severian's face was scarred by Agia in Citadel.  When he returns
as the New Sun, his face is healed.  That, and the many years that
have passed for her, is why Valeria doesn't recognize him at first.






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