(urth) The problem of Cthulhu

[brunians at brunians.org]

> The GOO are simply a modern analog of the Greek Titans or the Norse Jotuns

I'm not sure if this is strictly accurate. Also, the titans and the
jotunsn are not analagous. The titans are more analagous with the Vanir.
The jotuns are, I can't think of a Greek equivalent, but the Indian
equivalent would be the Rakshasas probably.

The Aesir and the Vanir are two interrelated clans of gods. There was a
war in the past, and a peace treaty (this tradition of a war in the deep
past is found all over).

It gets a little complicated, because the aesir and the vanir are all
related to the jotuns, in fact they are racially identical, they split off
at some time in the past.


I think that all of this is related to various species of humans who were
around in the deep past. There were (especially) surviving populations of
neanderthals and such in Scandanavia when the aryan types got there.





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> Or to put it another way, these pre-human forces of Chaos would in their
> day
> have been thought of much as we today think of the Great Old Ones -
> horrors
> with nothing quaint or anachronistic in their makeup.
>
>
> (((
> I'm an Odinist, and I continually have to remind myself and my
> co-religionists that archaism is not correct.
>
> Vikings, for example, (to pick a set of folk frequently and wrongly
> thought
> of as typifying Odinism), should be thought of as pirates using the
> highest
> tech weapons and transport; not quaint guys in helmets.   Because that is
> what they were.
>
> Think helecopter gunships and privately owned tanks not wooden ships.
> )))
>
>
>
> Wolfe repeatedly follows his masters Lewis and Tolkien in Christianising
> pagan myth in multiple levels of narrative analogy.
>
> His fantasies and science fictions have characters who can represent Odin
> or
> Achilles in one layer, and Christ in a higher layer (Silk > Odin > is an
> obvious example)
>
>
> Erebus etc thus represent the classical Titans / Jotuns / GOO within the
> frame of the urth books.   They are a theme, not simply from Lovecraft,
> but
> also from pagan religion/myth/cosmology
>
>
> Maybe a Christian would tell me what the "Christian layer" analog is.  The
> Devil, I suppose: but that doesn't seem quite right.
>
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