(urth) New Wolfe Story at Subterranean Press

Dan'l Danehy-Oakes danldo at gmail.com
Tue Jun 26 14:03:43 PDT 2007


One bit-and-piece that got left out: Roberta and Robber both have
"Rob" names. So do the Robinsons. Are they actually flesh&blood
themselves?

On 6/26/07, Joel Sieh <joel.sieh at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yeah, same here.  It definitely has some dark undertones.
>
> I get the following out of it so far (SPOILERS AHEAD):
>
> - Robots are at the same time perfect (and more convenient), but not as good
> as the real thing.
>
> - Real is messy, imperfect, inconvenient, and is being slowly exterminated
> for it.
>
> - I think there's a contrast of impurity/purity implied there, too.  Roberta
> teaches Julianne. Roberta is blond (pure), while Julianne is brunette
> (impure) (according to some folklore - not sure where I'm getting that,
> maybe pulpy werewolf stories).
>
> - Roberta the robot girl pities Robber the robot dog, and through this we
> get to see her self pity.  At the same time she pities him, she loves him.
> Maybe she loves him because he is like her, or because she empathizes with
> him.  And maybe her understanding is why he loves her (as shown by his
> attempts to get back to her - I'd like to think it's because she understands
> and values him, and not just because they're both robots).
>
> - I think Julianne kills Rover the real dog....  At least that's what the
> narrator wants us to think, without coming out and saying it.
>
> - Maybe the narrator does, but I don't think so.  There's the repeated hedge
> imagery when Rover comes into his yard and when the dog dies, but I think it
> more likely that the narrator is some incarnation of death....  Or
> something.  His talk at the beginning about the inevitability of death, his
> fascination with the girls, his attempt at proving the value of living
> things through his dog-swapping experiment, and his collection of the dead
> dog at the end lead me in that direction.  As a side note, I thought
> "penetrated" was an odd word choice in the following sentence: "Roberta's
> puppy had penetrated the hedge that separates the Robinson's back yard from
> our own."  With the screaming in the same paragraph, it could take on a
> violent or sinister quality like what Michael Swanwick says of "A Solar
> Labyrinth".
>
> - A question that popped out at me while I was reading:  Who is the "our" in
> the "our own" in the sentence quoted above?
>
> - The narrator fixates on innocence.  He mentions it when he talks about the
> girls and baby dogs/animals.  There may be parallels between his
> relationships to the girls and their relationships to the dogs.
>
> - Some other things I noticed:  Both the narrator and Roberta tried to
> teach.  Robots, children, and small animals share the quality of innocence,
> and the narrator definitely does not (or believes he does not).
>
> Just a bunch of bits and pieces.  That's what I often end up with at the end
> of a first reading of Gene Wolfe, however.  Not quite enough to put it all
> together, yet.  Maybe it'll help move the discussion along, though!
>
> --Joel
>
>
> On 6/26/07, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes <danldo at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Just read it. It looks like one of those stories Wolfe does occasionally
> > that seem kind of pointless at first and come back to whack you later.
> > This one hasn't come back to whack me yet, but I feel it in there trying
> > to figure itself out.
> >
> > On 6/26/07, Matthew Keeley <matthew.keeley.1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Subterraneanpress.com just posted a new Wolfe story. Should be an
> > > interesting read. Does anyone know if Wolfe plans to publish any books
> with
> > > Subterranean? It's a great small press, and I wouldn't mind seeing a
> Wolfe
> > > volume from them.
> > >
> > > -Matt
> > >
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