(urth) Wolfe: Misogynist Or Realist?
b sharp
bsharporflat at hotmail.com
Thu Oct 19 19:33:09 PDT 2006
Jack Redelfs takes me to task responding to my post: any point in the
lifespan, males are in greater danger and are injured and killed more often
than females.
With-
>Men are risk-takers; they are more prone to injure themselves and other
>men. Irrelevant.
Men remain in greater danger throughout their lives than women, that is my
point, regardless of the source of that danger. Perhaps you are suggesting
it is irrelevant since men deserve their danger because they (as a species?)
put danger on themselves? I won't accuse you of misandry? misoandry? since
I think society as a whole tends to agree with the sentiment that men
deserve what they get. (there are biological arguments for why that system
was originally set up by females, but..nevermind, nevermind, lol).
Jack responds to my: the safety and protection of women continues to be of
higher priority than protection of men in our society. Chivalry colors our
social outlook so universally it is hard to see it.
With-
>I heartily disagree. What do you mean by "our society?" The US? North
>America and western >Europe? Your own social sphere? Because I just don't
>see it.
Well, I did say it is hard to see. Actually I deleted a lot of qualifiers
from that post on WHICH society I meant and regarding exceptions like female
infanticide in rural India and China and female genital mutilation in
animist Africa, fearing that was drifting too far from Wolfe (it probably
is). I'll go out on a limb to guess that no tribal peoples of Africa or
Asia subscribe to this list and extend the definition of "our society" to
mean the general cultural milieu of anyone reading this.
To help Jack or others to see what I'm saying, I'll borrow from Bob Miller
and ask if you are adamantly in favor of putting women on the front line of
the battlefield. I'll also ask if you were on the Titanic if you would
demand an equal chance as any woman to be first in the lifeboat. If the
answer is no to either question I'd ask why. And timidly suggest the answer
is....chivalry? For what other reason (again won't get into biology) can we
as a society consider men to be more expendable than women?
okay, back to Wolfe.
-bsharp
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