(urth) Hierodules and time
thalassocrat at nym.hush.com
thalassocrat at nym.hush.com
Fri May 26 07:05:17 PDT 2006
On Fri, 26 May 2006 23:43:40 +1000 b sharp
<bsharporflat at hotmail.com> wrote:
>Thalassocrat, sorry I should have been more clear! If the
>knowledge of the
>play at Baldanders' castle is not a Wolfe mistake then seems to be
>using
>Ossipago in that capacity ("he has a memory like yours"). Q. How
>do they
>know? A. Ossipago told them.
But when F says "Only O here has memory like yrs", I think it's
clear she means like Sev's, who had just said, "I remember
everything vey well, as you had better know at once". O's a
machine, so he remembers stuff well; there's nothing in the
passage, or elsewhere AFAIK, to suggest he has a special time-
fixing role.
>
>Hence the deus ex machina reference (and thanks for finding it!).
>Gosh, who
>could be more of a God and a Machine than hierodule/robot
>Ossipago? He fits
>the phrase (defined below) almost perfectly and I suspect Wolfe
>had this in
>mind as he wrote.
But O doesn't get introduced "suddenly". I'm sure the term really
refers to the equivalent of suddenly dropping a god into the play
to put the brakes on the otherwise-inevitable denouement. It's "god
from a machine (ie, a crane)" not "god and machine", of course, and
anyway O isn't a god or at all god-like.
Not that it matters; it's a tiny issue, I confess, but time travel
always annoys me. And I can't help feeling that Wolfe has something
devious going on here, and that I'm missing it completely, which is
irritating <g>.
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