Bob Miller bob_bageera at hotmail.com
Mon Jan 30 03:38:19 PST 2006

To comment on only a small portion of the below:
The communists, in both Red China and 1930's and 40's Union of Soviet 
Socialist Republics, did not attempt to make everyone communicate straight 
from the book.  They did require that all technical commentary, whether 
social or hard sciences, offer a paean to the party line.  This did make the 
introductions to papers in physics and engineering journals seem a little 
strange.  Fluid mechanics and "right thinking" don't seem to be comfortable 


From: "Chris" <rasputin_ at hotmail.com>
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Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2006 01:49:05 +0000

I was of course aware of the references to communism in these passages, and
even caught the references to Mao's little red book. Apparently my
historical knowledge is inadequate, though, because I hadn't been aware that
the Chinese had attempted to force their population to communicate *only*
through these little sayings in order to ensure correct thought and total

I apologize for my ignorance in making the comparison.

 >On 1/29/06, Chris <rasputin_ at hotmail.com> wrote:
 > >
 > > with the Ascians speaking a sort of Newspeak.
 >...sigh, here we go again...
 >Folks, the Ascians are _not_ speaking "a sort of Newspeak."
 >They're speaking a parody of Chairman Mao Thought, the
 >logical end-result of people running around quoting from the
 >Little Red Book. The Ascians are a resuscitation of the
 >"Yellow Peril" of the pulp stories Wolfe is generally revivifying
 >in the New Sun books.
 >Yes, I _know_ it's pronounced "uh-SHAY-yun" and I know
 >what it's supposed to mean, but if you really believe that
 >Wolfe didn't consciously intend us to think, at least glancingly,
 >of "Asians," you're not giving him enough credit for deviosity
 >or deviousness or whatever the nominal form of "devious" is
 >supposed to be. Making it uh-SHAY-yuns is a way to dance
 >around being called racist, in a book all full of hypostasized
 >racial theories.
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 >                         -- St Teresa of Avila

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