(urth) Newbie - a theory and some questions.

Chris rasputin_ at hotmail.com
Mon Mar 14 15:21:36 PST 2005

Abaia, Erebus & co. were described as aliens, if you believe the origin 
story of where they came from. I am not 100% sure it is accurate to call 
them "cacogens", because "cacogens" seems to have a more specific 
connotation than simply any and all types of alien.

Alien or not, at Baldander's castle mention is also made of the life cycle 
of his people/species/type (which is where the connection is made to 
Abaia/Erebus/etc), which does distinguish them as non-human at the very 

I remember that there was a third, but I cannot remember its name.

>Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:
>>This is a good example of the kind of thing you have to glerk from
>>context in Wolfe - he gives you the pieces, but you have to assemble
>>the puzzle yourself.
>>Erebus and Abaia are both huge alien(?) beings -- the sort of thing that
>>Baldanders may become in time - who play chess with humans as
>>pieces. Erebus lives at the South Pole, near the mountain of the same 
>>name; Abaia lives under the sea. There is a third, if you can catch the
>>Welcome aboard.
>>--Dan'l (Blattid)
>What makes you think Erebus/Abaia are aliens (cacogens)?
>Is it just because Baldanders seems to be like them, and non-human
>(which would explain why the cacogens take such trouble to teach him.)?
>That said,: There was a third!?!
>Looks like I'll be re-reading it; makes me glad I dropped the money and 
>actually bought'em,
>as is not my wont.
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