SV: Re: (urth) Send in the Clones

[nastler]

Before the old Gnostic argument cycles through again,
I'd just like to flag the discovery of the secular
nature of Silks enlightenment made by Marc Aramini
almost two years ago (10Oct2003) but not really
discussed on the list.

This makes spurious the easy assumption (which I had
also made) that the Outsider is the True (Christian)
God breaking into the closed Whorl to directly
enlighten Silk on the court.

If God takes a hand in LS (or SS) then He is massively
indirect. As Dan (and Silk) says, it can only then be
an assumption that the intentions of Tyhpon and
Kypris, in giving such a cyberpunky message to Silk,
and the actions of the other "demons and false gods",
in some way accord with His wishes. Which is another
way to say "God is the Universe".

nastler

--- Dan'l Danehy-Oakes <danldo at gmail.com> skrev:

> What I'm saying (and have been saying for a couple
> of years
> now) is that the _Whorl_ itself is a miniature
> Gnostic Kosmos,
> with Pas/Typhon as the Demiurge who creates it and
> the
> Outsider as the True God. Silk's "enlightenment" -
> for which 
> I have no proper name in terms of the "orthodox"
> true 
> Creation; perhaps it might be likened to a moment of
> 
> prophetic vision? - is, within the context of this
> miniature 
> Kosmos, a moment of pure Gnosis. In pretending to be
> a 
> whole and self-contained universe, the Whorl is thus
> a 
> parody of the true Creation. 
> 
> Because the Outsider is the True God of this Gnostic
> parody Kosmos, but also and more basically the God 
> of Christianity, the Outsider is able to bend the
> false 
> gods of the _Whorl_ to (ultimately) serve His ends.
> At
> one point Silk observes that demons and other
> entities 
> who pretend to be gods "become" them - that is, they
> 
> all tend toward Outsider-ish-ness - they are
> subsumed 
> ultimately into His design (rather like Melkor and
> the
> Music of Eru Iluvatar).